Assalamu Alaikum brothers and Sisters,
I would like to offer some few explanations to the statement i made some few days ago under the headline:’‘UMBS’s POSITION ON AHMADIYAS OR QADIANIIYYAH”. Some people have written that ”my entire presentation was flowing in a certain direction, but amazingly, i failed to make that logical conclusion.’’
First of all, I think some statements by some people made me look like a very complicated person yet I’m not. The statement I made had a lot of intentions but the main ones were: 1- to keep sanity on the forum in the long run because I knew where this was going, basing on my experience on UMBS-Facebook- where one of such threads alone has generated over 1600 comments; 2- to show forumists that we know that the Qadianies/Ahmadiyas are disbelievers but we need the best way forward;3- find a way to help them become Muslims again without the use of any tough language. Yes, ‘Kafir’ as a term is part of the tough language; 4- to leave the final judgment in the hands of Allah because He knows better.
So, if one bothers to look at my statement properly, one would see that the last arguments are not, at their core, about conclusion of anything, but about mainly finding a way forward that does not keep Muslims in constant fights with the Ahmadies/Qadianies.My arguments are based upon the fact that, from a strictly objective standpoint, there is a NON-ZERO probability that some Ahmadies/Qadianies may in fact be already regretting their decision to join such a sect, and therefore we must take into account that probability and the corresponding potential risk to labeling them ‘Kafir’ yet they may want to become Muslims again. This is just common sense, brothers and Sisters.
There are basically two kinds of Ahmadiyas. The first is the “elite Ahmadiya.” This kind of Ahmadiya doesn’t really care that s/he is promoting a philosophy that is anti-Islam and all.The reason such a person would continue to promote something like that even when they know it doesn’t work is that it does work: to put them in power, fat jobs and other privileges that comes along with it. Like i stated in that statement, most of the Ahamadiyas or people who claim to be Ahmadiyas/Qadianis are doing well financially. They have got unlimited financial resources if you bother to find out. So, people under this category could do anything to defend Ahmadiyasim/Qadianism.
The other kind of Ahmadiya is the “dupe,” or ” Bangamba nyingire obuhamadiya.” This person really believes what he’s trying to sell you because the ‘elite Ahmadiya’ has convinced him/her. But this person is your best prospect to be saved from him/herself. These are the people Muslims should target, but you will find it difficult to convince them to your side if you keep calling them ‘Kafiirs’. Find a better way of tapping into the humanity in them to bring them to your side. Nobody likes to be called ‘Oli Musiru’ all the time though s/he may be really less intelligent.
It’s not too difficult to tell the difference between the two. The elite will last about 30 seconds in a debate. When they get tired of debating and see that they are losing ground, at this point, they usually “go bananas” and begin calling you names or abusing you,such as ‘you are also a Kafir’, ‘you are stupid’,’ that’s why you support so and so’, and stuff like that.
These labels serve to allow them to avoid arguing on your terms and get you to argue against the label they’ve provided (on their terms), and thereby change the entire complexion of the debate into one they can win.They will get under your skin whether you like it or not because they are trained to do so. They’ll accuse you of getting all your information from wrong sources, wrong sheiks or Imams. They will provide you with websites or books of their own to render you weaponless. I have seen their arguments on facebook and how some Uganda Muslims keep losing debates because they are ill equipped to debate with them. The inference is that there’s no truth there and your assertions are therefore irrelevant. They’ll try to use all sorts of ploys to avoid an actual, rational discussion of the issues, which they know they can’t win because they’re wrong. It’s as simple as that. And by the way, they are good at doing research before they write anything down.
The “dupes” or ‘” Bangamba nyingire obuhamadiya ‘’, on the other hand, will attempt to use the same tactics because they’ve been taught to argue that way by the “elites.” But they won’t be as good at it and thus will be more easily vanquished, and then more amenable to reason. Once people find out they’ve been duped, they get mad about it. So, this is the group we should put our efforts on through conferences, friendships, love and respect, thus one of my statements:’’ We should continue to interact with the Ahmadiyas with respect and love they deserve.’’ Don’t distance so much yourself from them but learn how to argue if you wanna bring them back to Islam.If you don’t know how to debate or argue your points well, then may be you have good reasons not to be in the same forums as them.
If you believe in my ”friendly” approach, you will get net results. If you believe in the approach of: ‘that is not your brother, so don’t treat him with respect and love”, you won’t get results’. Trust me on this!! Look, Humanity does have hope, you may one day find Mr.Kiyingi, Haggaz, Ali Muwanda and others, once into serving blindly for Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiani, now something nearing closer to Islam.
We could argue this approach infinitum and probably not resolve anything, so we will have to fundamentally disagree on this point. So, please, I again request Uganda Muslims not to call Ahmadiyas/Qadianis: ‘Kafiirs’, and find a better way of bringing them back to Islam.
I cannot provide a better overall explanation than this. But people are free to draw any sort of conclusions they wish from what I wrote, because to be honest: I never concluded anything, apart from making recommendations or suggestions.
Byebyo banange
Abbey Kibirige Semuwemba
salaam, why do you want us to apear as if we are the ones who want them more,aturiidu minuhumul izza bal izzatul lillahhi jamii’a,if you’re something you’re so,if you’re a muslim you’re a muslim,if you’re a kaafir you’re a kaafir and wew shall not desist from calling them so,al kufr milatu waahida’thats what the prohet said